is it. >> joining us is chuck and susan. chuck, i know this has to be the hardest holiday of your life. what you can tell us how the grand kids are doing? i know you've spent a lot of time with them over the holidays. >> we've seen them three times and they seem to be doing fair. it's been good to be able to see them. >> one of your grandsons just turned 3 on saturday. does he have any idea where his mom is? >> that would be braden, and i don't think so. >> has he asked you about it. >> no. he hasn't been talking about that at all. >> as we discussed before the holiday, police consider susan's husband josh now a person of interest in this case. when did you last speak to josh about this? and what has he told you? >> we've only had a few words each time, as he's got the kids off or picked the kids up. and he has had nothing to say at all about where susan might be. >> even when you ask him directly? >> yes. he told me a couple weeks ago that he didn't know where she was. and there's been no change. >> how do you maintain your